I am interested in what definitions we are using in the discussion.  What is the meaning of "prove" and of "disprove" and in what linguistic spheres is it meaningful? Does it apply to proving or disproving I love my children or only in the areas that are measurable and repeatable designed tests designed for controlling and predicting?   What is the meaning of "there is a lot of physical and scientific 'evidence' to support the non-existence of supernatural beings?"   What is the standard by which we are defining the meaning of "good" or "moral?"  Not trying to be nitpicking or obtuse, just wondering if we are talking past one another a lot of the time.